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Postby HooT » June 20th, 2010, 8:40 pm

Hello all I am looking for some ideas for my new pc.
I will be using MYS for most parts, http://www.msy.com.au/Parts/PARTS.pdf

GB X58A-UD3R mobo
Core i7-930
6G Kit ddr3 2000 Patriot-Gamer (unsure if it will work with mobo)
Patriot TORQX M28 128M-Buffer 64GB (all ready got)

Should I go with???
2x 1GB 1280M GTX 470 cards
or
1x 1GB 1536M GTX 480 and add another at a latter stage?
What PSU to get??

I also have a this monitor Acer X243Hbmid 24 inch 1920 x 1080 with HDMI.
If you have any suggestions please let me know.
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Postby Dazzar » June 20th, 2010, 9:21 pm

Nothing inherently wrong with anything you have suggested yourself. You dont want to go with ATI video cards? That would possibly be my one potential change from what you have suggested + whether you need the 2000mhz rated ram - but that is not a big issue unless you arent going to overclock.
My i7 930 runs at 4.0ghz 24/7 and does go higher but I backed it off a bit for 24/7 capability. I still havent played around much with my 1866mhz rated ram and only have it running @ 1280mhz atm.

So basically if you like those components go for it. Just consider the following on video cards:

Nvidia 470 x 2 = approximately $880
Nvidia 480 = approximately $630
ati 5870 x 2 = approximately $860
Ati 5970 = approximately $770


If you are talking about spending those sort of dollars I would lean towards the 5970 atm if you can stretch although I too have a soft spot for nvidia. I wouldnt go the dual 470 way if I was you and chose out of the 480 or 5970. You can always add another one of whichever you chose down the track!! The sweet spot is in the slower cards of course (5770/5850/5870/470) but depends on whether you want reasonably good framerates or the best possible......and your budget of course. People will rarely complain something is too fast ;) .
I generally buy the fastest available at the time in regards to video cards when I upgrade and my nvidia 1792mb 295gtx is still going strong. But I do pay plenty of $$$$$ for it!!

As for power supply well just make sure it is a quality unit. Corsair make good ones while I really like the Enermax ones and a few other brands are good too. Read some reviews online if you could be bothered. Get a good mid range+ power supply (600w+) with high efficiency (80%+). My Enermax Revolution 85+ gets amazing reviews and is at the upper end as far as quality power supplies go. The top end power supplies have 5 - 10 year warranty also, so it is a indication of their build quality imho. The fact I run a 1050w capacity psu is perhaps a bit of overkill though. :ugeek:
Again people never complain that they have too much power at their disposal.... :roll: and budgets come into it.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2062300
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/03/ ... i_review/4
http://www.guruht.com/2010/03/geforce-g ... hmark.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gra ... 646-6.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gra ... 646-7.html
http://www.techspot.com/review/283-gefo ... page3.html
http://thepcreport.net/reviews/hardware ... s-gtx-480/
http://www.guruht.com/2010/05/gigabyte- ... s-gtx.html
http://www.ultimatehardware.net/nvidia/ ... _page3.htm

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2662/9
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Postby cookie » June 20th, 2010, 10:04 pm

I would go with ATI tbh just get like a 5970 or somthing and then you can send your pc over to me ;)
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Postby HooT » June 20th, 2010, 11:37 pm

Dazzar thank you very much for taking the time to add so much content to this discussion and all the links (I will visit them over the next few days).
Yeah I've been happy with both ati and nvid so I am open to suggestions.
Currently I have been using a nivid 8800 gtx so either way it will be a big jump to my next system.
Dazz what mobo are you using ATM?
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Postby Dazzar » June 21st, 2010, 12:43 am

Gigabyte X58 Extreme motherboard is what I am using.

Some of the newer motherboards now have usb 3.0, 6gb/s sata and some other "new" features. I think the new boards from Gigabyte have a A designation. For example GA-X58A-UD9 so the board you are looking at would be fine. Speaking of which the GA-X58A-UD9 is a balltearer of a motherboard from Gigabyte. If you want to add cards to it they need to be pci-e. It has seven (7) pci-e x 16 slots and can support up to 4 way sli or 4 way crossfire. I know the cost is hideous though - apparently it is/was the worlds most expensive enthusiast motherboard (rrp was around $699USD at release - it can now be had for around $600AU).
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Postby AsTrO_Ph3niX » June 21st, 2010, 9:09 am

I got this from http://www.pccasegear.com

Samsung 750GB 7200rpm SATA II HD753LJ ( For Storage )
Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5 Motherboard
Intel Core i7 920
Noctua NH-U12P SE1366 CPU Cooler
OCZ Vertex Turbo 120GB SSD
OCZ DDR3 PC3-12800 Platinum 3x2GB OCZ3P1600LV6GK
EVGA GeForce GTX 285 Superclocked (still going strong =]) but id go the 480 from evga
Enermax Revolution85+ SLI 850W
Corsair Obsidian Series 800D Case

(any cd-drive they all the same really)

it cost around $3-4k
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Postby flip83 » June 22nd, 2010, 4:39 am

Make your own build, at the moment nVidia and ATI are pretty much even for raw power, with nVidia just edging out over ATI. However I feel the drawback for nVidia is the power draw on the cards, you are looking at a lot more watts for an nVidia card.

With your motherboard, make sure it can support either crossfire (ATI) or SLI (nVidia), so effectively get a motherboard that works best with your video card should you aim to put two into the machine.
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Postby Riddick » June 22nd, 2010, 11:07 am

Flip your talking shit again. the new Nvidia draws 30 percent less wattage then there fail counterpart ATI.

Noice try again flip.
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Postby I3laK3 » June 22nd, 2010, 1:07 pm

hahaha riddick
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Postby cookie » June 22nd, 2010, 2:55 pm

Riddick wrote:Flip your talking shit again. the new Nvidia draws 30 percent less wattage then there fail counterpart ATI.

Noice try again flip.
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And also flip how do you know all of this have you tryed every ATI and nVid card on the market

The 5970 is better then the 480 so i have been reading
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Postby HooT » June 22nd, 2010, 8:19 pm

so far..

Lian-Li(Lancool) K62 http://www.lancoolpc.com/en/product/pro ... dex=62&g=q
G-B X58A-UD3R http://www.gigabyte.com/products/produc ... id=3449#ov
Core i7-930
6G Kit ddr3 2000 Patriot-Gamer
http://www.patriotmem.com/products/deta ... 844&type=1
SATA Blu-Ray Combo Samsung
2GB 5970 Powercolor or HIS or Gigabyte or Asus?

And suggestions for PSU's?
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Postby jakeinabox » June 22nd, 2010, 8:55 pm

HooT wrote:2GB 5970 Powercolor or HIS or Gigabyte or Asus?

Whichever has the better warranty, probably gigabyte, but all those brands are fine quality wise
HooT wrote:And suggestions for PSU's?

Corsair, Seasonic, Enermax are the most popular of the good quality brands, and the Silverstone PSUs and Antec Signiture series are good too

you'd need about a 600W psu for just the one 5970 or an 800-850W one if you plan to add a second at some point

also ddr3 2000Mhz memory is stupid overkill unless you're doing 4Ghz+ overclocks
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Postby HooT » June 22nd, 2010, 11:18 pm

If you want to run 2x GV-R597D5-2GD-B You need a power supply that provides at least 1000-watt and with two 2x3-pin(2x6pin) and two 2x4-pin(2x8pin) PCIe power connectors is required.

Will Enermax REVOLUTION85+ 1050W CrossFireX™ do it? I think so...
http://www.enermaxusa.com/catalog/produ ... cts_id=172

Lian-Li(Lancool) K62
G-B X58A-UD3R
Core i7-930
6G Kit ddr3 2000 Patriot-Gamer
2GB 5970 Gigabyte 3 year G-Tee
Enermax REVOLUTION85+ 1050W CrossFireX™
SATA Blu-Ray Combo Samsung

Now to start saving $2300 the longer it take me to save the cheaper it will get :P
If anyone has other suggestions please let me know, thanks.
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Postby berad. » June 23rd, 2010, 8:47 am

nothin but nerds and virgins in this thread
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Postby flip83 » June 23rd, 2010, 10:36 am

Riddick wrote:Flip your talking shit again. the new Nvidia draws 30 percent less wattage then there fail counterpart ATI.

Noice try again flip.


http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-480,2585-15.html

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are you done Riddick? or do you still want to talk crap?
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Postby flip83 » June 23rd, 2010, 10:37 am

berad. wrote:nothin but nerds and virgins in this thread


I guess that's why you felt the need to post here then?
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Postby Riddick » June 23rd, 2010, 11:29 am

Mmm, yes for the release of the GTX480 the power consumption is rather poor. However the performance is lackluster against a dual GPU ati but fairs quite well against the 5870. When the release of possibly the GTX490 dual GPU, will again see ATI choking on flips flaps.

Take into account the benefits of CUDA and 3 monitor display I would suggest that whatever dribble you wanna continue with flip and your ATI cock sucking a 4% performance win over Nvidia in majority of fps synthetic benchmarks you can fucking stick it right up your arse.
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Postby flip83 » June 23rd, 2010, 11:48 am

Riddick I wasn't saying ATI had better performance overall, I actually said nVidia is ahead for now. We all know that it will continue to change leads as they stagger their new releases from each others. I was merely pointing out the power consumption differences. The stock 480GTX is about 5%-20% (game varying) better performance than the stock HD5870 and that's to be expected. The 470GTX and the HD5850 are pretty much the same with up to 5% increase in some games for the 470GTX.

So yes, for single GPU raw power that takes shits on everything then nVidia is the only option (480GTX ~$700), but for raw power in one PCIe slot the HD5970(~$875) takes the cake - at least until the dual GPU 4XXGTX cards come out from nVidia.

But for most people running a 1920x1080 setup an HD5850 (~$380) is the best cost/performance card right now, unless the 470GTX (~$450) cards drop in price
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Postby Riddick » June 23rd, 2010, 12:12 pm

Who gives a fuck about power consumption, there is plenty of brown coal to be burning to last you flip your entire life.
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Postby Hypa » June 23rd, 2010, 1:45 pm

You are extremely rude sometimes Riddick. Put a dolmio grin on that face.
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